all have a very big false ego. In one way or another
it comes out. This is actually the biggest obstacle
for going back home to Godhead: our big fat false ego.
it sits on top of us. It say, I am not moving from
here. So what is the medicine against this ego? That
main question, because with that false ego we won’t
get into the spiritual world. You know, there are different
coverings of the universe. And each covering is ten times
wider than the previous one. So that means the false
ego is ten times bigger than the covering of the intelligence,
which is ten times more than the covering of the mind,
which is ten times bigger than the covering of ether,
which is ten times bigger than the covering of air, and
like that. So it is even difficult to calculate how big
this false ego is. It is so big. And you cannot go to
the spiritual world if you cannot cross beyond it. That
is the point.
And the false ego takes any shape. You
may say, I’m
a man. I’m better than the women. And the women
will go: “Who is this man anyway? They all come
from our womb.” You may have a male false ego or
a female false ego. But it is all false ego. As long
as you think, I’m a man or I’m a woman, that
is false ego. This is very big. The male-female false
ego, one of the major problems of this world. And what’s
the solution? The “I am the servant” idea.
If I understand myself to be a servant: no problem.
Then you have the other false ego. I’m rich.
Or you think: “I’m poor”. But both
are false ego. You are not rich and you are not poor.
is only temporary, external appearance. As soon as
you say, I am, you can be sure it is some false ego
Unless you say, I am an eternal servant of Krsna, and
you only act that way.
But in the beginning, even the
devotees, they have a false ego. I’m a devotee.
I am better than everybody else. That’s also
false ego. The false ego can come into you because
I’m brahmacari. Oh, I am
practicing celibacy. So I am very high. That is another
false ego. Another person say, I’m a temple president.
Wow, everybody comes to me and says: “Jay, Maharaja!” Now
my ego can really fly. Before long nobody can say anything
to me. Now I’m trying to practice spiritual life,
I’m getting so much honor. And that honor is
driving me mad. Even physically you can see that. When
in this material world, nobody looks at you. You are
very timid. Fearful. If you want to relate to some
member of the opposite sex, you can hardly talk. You
And like this everything is so complicated. But then,
when you’re a temple president, and you are doing
nice preaching, then the matajis are coming: “Prabhu,
can I serve you?” Before that they don’t
look at you, and now they are asking “Can I serve
So when you want to leave this material
world, many mayas come to tie you down. Maya will put
so many tests
you to see if you are really interested in devotion.
Maya will send money, the opposite sex, and fame. And
if you become puffed up, then you will have big problems.
The big false ego. What is the medicine against that?
Let’s hear your opinion, What is the medicine
against the big, fat false ego? You can offer me some
But all very short.
Balaram Prakash, what you say,
what is the best medicine against this false ego? The
Mahamantra if you can say
it like that, even if only once, it is a very sharp
sword against the false ego with which we can fight.
is the medicine for false ego. If you can sing it properly.
Another idea? Tamal? Serving others. Like what?
We try to serve those who we look down. Very interesting.
Janardan Prabhu, what recommendation you give? To be
in the shelter of the one who has no false ego. And
to serve him. Fantastic.
Madhavi, what recommendation will you give? Devotional
Visvanath, what idea do you have? My duty is to serve
my family with the blessings of my Gurudevas.
Jagannath? Humbleness and prayers. Mahamantra, prayer.
Who else would like to offer some help against the
big fat false ego?
Kesava Maharaj? Not to think of ourselves as the owner.
Premavardhan? To be honest with ourselves and humble.
Jagannath also says, humble. I need more help. This
is not enough. Wash the toilet every day. I have heard
things. But I’m missing the most important practical
But of course everything what you have said is also
true and is also important. So, something more.
Gauranga? Preaching to others. Also true.
Balaram? To gain Krsna’s mercy, without which
there is nothing.
Harijan Maharaj: Serving the Deities and the devotees
under the guidance of the spiritual master.
More! We need more help. This false ego is too big.
Sadhana? Be more concrete. Self control and practicing
Madhavi: Regularly asking others: What is my mistake?
Radhika Prasad? There is a saying that you will become
like the one you associate with. Yes. Association.
Yogeshvar? Seeking self-knowledge. More, more.
Govardhan? To serve Tulasi Devi because she is most
dear to Krsna. Very good. You see, we have quite some
But I’m missing the most important.
The most important is Mahamantra. That is a fact. To
serve our guru. That has been mentioned already. The
real desire to get rid of our false ego. Lobha, the
greed. Yes. Love and desire to get the mercy of Radharani.
Govardhan: To try to see Govinda in everything and
through this to think about him all the time. Very
One thing was spoken in general, but no specifics were
given. But it is the most important. For practical
Yogeshvar: Krsna should always be in the centre of
our life. Yes. More. He says sravanam, kirtanam…
What does that mean, practically? To hear the Bhagavatam.
That is what I was waiting for. But what does it mean?
How the Bhagavatam helps against your false ego? First
because you sit down and you listen. Sitting in front
of another Vaishnava and listening. And having discussion
on the meaning of the sloka. Those who don’t come
to class every day, their ego is becoming bigger and
bigger. And if you live in a circumstance where you cannot,
where there is no class going on, then you must give
the class. Or you must listen very carefully to one tape
every morning, of your Gurudev. This hearing about these
subjects, this is the food for our soul. Just like you
need food for maintaining the body, you need spiritual
food to keep the false ego down. When you don’t
go on listening to the classes regularly, your spiritual
advancement is very slow. And your ego will grow and
But I need another one. This was one. Let’s see
who knows the secret for conquering the false ego.
Another secret. But very important. Worshipping the
that has been mentioned. The Gayatri mantra. That is
also a big help. More, more.
To serve the devotees, to live in a saintly place.
Yes. Good, more, more.
To offer prasadam. Very nice.
Once Janardan Prabhu asked Gurudev, how it is possible
to develop in spiritual life, he answered, only when
the devotees are satisfied with us. Very good. More.
Actually this is the way. But how? Loving and trust.
Yes. To create harmony with our spiritual master. Steadiness
and enthusiasm. To see others above us. Very good.
More. I’m looking for something very practical.
To read Bhagavad-gita. Good, but what I’m looking
for it is very important and it repeats all the time.
Not an attitude. You have propsed many perfect attitudes.
But what practical thing you do?
Balaram: To distribute the glorification of the holy
Bhakti? To remember Krsna. I got you.
Govinda? To serve those you spend most of your time
Tamal said, you serve those who you don’t like.
Very good, come on.
You give up?
Govardhan: Trying to love each other. Perfect.
To do what the spiritual master asks to do. Yes. And
one particular thing he asks? What particular thing
the spiritual master asks that we remain humble and
our false ego will not disturb?
Govardhan: to surrender. Yes. When I said, you will
all go, aaaaaah.
Kesava Maharaj: Always think of Krsna and never forget
Krsna. Yes. To put everything before the feet of the
guru, success and failure, everything. Yes. Chanting
the holy name. Yes.
Govinda: To communicate with other and accept also
the opposite opinion, those ideas which do not agree
ours. Aha, how do you that? No way. He does not do
this. We are getting there. How, how? How do you do
just said? Tolerance, patience, love and trust.
Devaki: Ista-gosti. Thank you, Devaki. What’s
the translation of ista-gosti? Disclosing our mind
No. What means ista? He is the Lord of our heart. And
gosti means? Coming together to find out how to serve
Him in harmony. But ista-gosti has many more aspects.
Ista-gosti means the meeting of those who are concerned
with the progress of the community. Ista-gosti means
the attempt to make everybody happily engaged according
to his capacities. Ista-gosti means that we distribute
the services among ourselves. And we report to the
other devotees what am I doing. Ista-gosti means giving
the independence. Oh, I just do what I like. Therefore
ista-gosti is so important in this connection.
Vaishnava Tanács is also a type of ista-gosti.
The meeting of all the devotees is also a type of ista-gosti.
Every department must have ista gosti every week to
make it work. In a material company you have something
the Board of Directors. There is a director for production,
a director for accounting, delivery, product development,
each department has a director. And in many companies
every morning the day starts with the meeting of the
Board of Directors. Why? Because if any of the departments
fail, all the other departments are affected. So nobody
can fail. Even the owner of the company, he does not
interfere there. Because only the director of a department
has the vision what’s going on in my department?
So if one of the directors says, I don’t like
these meetings, I don’t go there. You only talk
so much, I don’t like it. Immediately he loses
the right to be a director of the department. They
on the very day. Why? Because a company cannot afford
any department is not well coordinated.
So the so-called
directors have to be very humble. Not only that. I’m
called the director of production. But then there is
a director of keeping the personnel.
Of hiring and watching all the people work. So if the
director of person considers that I am not treating
the people nicely and my false ego is creating conflict
the people in my department, the other director will
say: Sorry, Mr. Director, you are not doing your job
nicely. Because I’m the director of the people
and I’m hearing complaints. Then the director
of production says, Very sorry, tell me how I shall
with this. So the director becomes the servant of the
other director. And if the sales department says, your
supplies are coming too slow, you have to increase.
Then he has to be very humble. Yes, we will do everything
to increase. He cannot say, ah, come on, leave me alone.
Now I ask you one question. Do you conduct your ista-gostis
in that spirit of cooperation and humility. And if
your answer is no, that means you are feeding a big,
ego. And instead of being a big help to the community,
your ego may be an obstacle to the community. But because
everything we do is voluntary, we are not a company,
we are a spiritual family, therefore we are not careful
enough. Because even though it is a voluntary thing,
still, if any department fails, many things are affected.
Many things become slow. Or they become ineffective.
Because we do need each other. If the Deity is not
properly worshipped, all our devotion is in problem.
is no classes in the temple, all the brahmacaris will
become in maya. If the book production does not have
any books, we have nothing to preach. If the CDs are
not being copied, and put into availability, then you
cannot give out the nectar. Or if they are copied,
but in bad copies which go wrong, then everybody is
into trouble by getting out that material. And like
this I can give you at least a thousand examples where
arise if the ista-gosti is not very sophisticated.
Every ashram must have a Board of Directors. Even though
are maybe the only one in your department. That does
not matter. Still you are a director of a department.
You need a reception department. Pujari department,
kitchen department, buying supplies department, new
department, treasury and accounting department, art
department, construction department, university preaching
printing division department, home page department,
movie making department, public relations department.
How many departments you need? Now, if you don’t
have those departments, because you never thought of
having them, or because you don’t make any ista-gostis,
or because you do not read the president handbook,
the chat extracts, then you don’t have these
things and you don’t become aware of the difficulty.
For me every devotee is a potential department director.
Every devotee is a potential temple president. And
have to be in the ista-gostis to learn how these things
are going on.
You can compare a good ista-gosti to
a college class. Of business administration and ashram
I go every week to my class of business administration
and ashram management, that means my weekly ista-gosti,
after one year I start understanding something. And
after four years I’m a professional. I start
understanding what it means to develop a community.
Daivik varna ashrama
as Prabhupad used to say, has to be understood and
Do you know what it means daivik varna ashram?
That means that the children of the devotees like Gauranga
the young kids who are growing up, that they enter
into a sophisticated organization of spiritual dimension.
With preaching opportunities, job opportunities, and
the real siddhanta is the guiding star. When young
come into Krsna Consciousness, and they start managing
the temples, that is a big success. This means there
is some proper development.
So to organize our communities
first class, it is not a nice engagement. It is not
just a nice option. It’s
the natural requirement. And if the old people don’t
work hard for that, then, instead of cultivating devotion,
they are just cultivating a big fat ego. That’s
why you have to become every day more humble. And to
sit together with others, that makes you humble. To
listen to the opinions of others, that makes you humble.
not become angry with others, even if they have a different
opinion of yours, that makes you humble. And to hear
your service constructively criticized, that makes
Hey, don’t forget, in my analogy
of the company, in my comparison to the Board of Directors
in a company,
if any director rejects to be criticized, he is fired.
Get out of here, get out. A program director must be
willing to be constructively criticized. In the material
world, big companies, they pay big amounts of money
only for one reason. So that experts will come inside
company, and criticize everything they see. Even the
directors, they are shaking. Because the experts, they
will say: This is not working well. This is stagnant.
This meeting is not working. This production department
does not even have a list of projects. This is a joke.
And then everybody goes, ah, we have to change so much.
And then the owner comes. He says: “Now you can
change, or you can go.”
Why? You see, when we
live together, 1-2-3 years, our big fat false ego sits
into a position, and it starts
creating fences around the ego. Prohibited area. Entry
is not allowed. This is my ego area, everywhere you
will find ego area, big fat ego areas everywhere. And
new man comes, he is intelligent, he says: Why is this
here? They say, no, you don’t look there. This
is only for older devotees. Then he says: I have a
suggestion. No, no, don’t talk about this. That
has been decided seven years ago. But it looks stupid.
are a very
offensive bhakta. You will not make any advancement,
if you challenge the seniors.
That is called the „Peter
is a principle which says, in every organization after
some time every post is occupied by somebody who is
not qualified. Because in an organization, what to
of a voluntary organization, if you do your job nicely,
they give you more service. When you do it nicely,
they give you more service. Then they give you more
And then you cannot do it nicely, because it is too
much. Then they say, OK, you stay this way. So you
And so therefore ista-gosti is
very, very important. In an ista-gosti we honestly
analyze what we wish to
do, how to do, when to do, who can help. And the temple
presidents and the sannyasis, if they don’t know
what I’m saying right now, if they don’t
practice these principles, then this will not grow
very much. This will not be very successful. That is
So we have to be very determined to learn from each
I don’t know everything. I’m not
a professional. Many of you know more than me about
certain areas of
life. But I know that, and I recognize that. And I
work with this understanding. I don’t impose
my limitations on an expert. On the contrary, I try
to draw the expert
into the level of Board of Directors.
And for an ista-gosti
how nice would be if there is 200 people participating
in the ista-gosti. But then
say, 200 people discussing something, it is becoming
impractical. Then what do you do then? You divide it
into areas of specialists. And they will report to
the whole ista-gosti what is the final outcome. Now
don’t get the misunderstanding that what I am
explaining iit could be mundane. Good temple management
is not mundane.
It is transcendental. Everything we use for Krsna becomes
transcendental. Even the computer. that’s why
so many computers are accepted in this service of Mahaprabhu
and Krsna. And Rupa Goswami 500 years ago, he gave
understanding that not using modern things for Krsna
is phalgu vairagya, it is false renunciation.
this way also, how to manage your, like our program
here, it to manage Krsna Consciousness in an entire
country. Such a wonderful country like Hungary. So,
how we are
going to do that? Well, we have to become very good.
And when intelligent people come, they will say, this
is good. I can participate here. Not that there is
just a bunch of big false egos, you cannot have any
then you will go away and you feel disheartened. Now
do you understand why the ista-gosti is so important
to conquer the big, fat false ego? And everybody has
to sit there, from the beginning to the end. Humble.
Learning. And offering his own constructive views on
the departments of others as well.
Because it works
both ways. To offer constructive criticism, or to accept
constructive criticism from others, this
makes humble. Without that your humility is a joke.
I am such a humble devotee. I am the most fallen. I
like the worm in the stool. But don’t tell me
anything. Don’t ask me to come to a meeting.
ask me to make a financial report of my activities.
Every department has to be financially transparent.
which is not financially transparent, cannot exist.
Only a privately owned company, maybe only the owner
what’s going on in the finances. But then the
tax department comes. It says, give me all your papers.
me your accounts. So even the private people have to
be transparent. And if they are not, then they come
and cut your business. If you refuse to cooperate,
to the local rules, they just close your business.
all. Bankrupt. And make you a court case for not paying
taxes. So, coming to the meetings, bringing your financial
reports, that is humility. Because we are all working
with Krsna’s property, and for Krsna’s
property. That is the reality. (Thank you for opening
And devotees, they sometimes are very negligent
with some technical things. Not because they are bad
Just because they have not learned it. They have not
understood the importance. But if somebody questions
their conduct, if somebody says, You, why you don’t
keep accounts? They go, You don’t trust me? OK.
So they say, You don’ trust me? Ten years I’m
doing service, and you dare to question my trustworthiness?
No, Prabhu. I am not doubting you. I’m only saying,
you must keep accounts nicely for our departments to
work. For the well-being of the whole society. So we
need your department also to be transparent. So it’s
a big job to do trnad api sunicena… It is a big
job. It does not mean just to say: Haribol. Dandavats.
It means hard work to make everything the best we can.
And the standards of quality is the authority. You
may ask, Who sets the standards? Not an easy question.
to Vaishnava philosophy the standard of quality is
coming from the best way you can achieve. The standard
is the highest speed you can do while still achieving
the best quality. Like sometimes people do things so
quick that the product is very low standard. That’s
not Vaishnava philosophy. vaishnava philosophy is the
highest speed while maintaining the highest quality.
How quick you cook and how quick you type, how determined
you are for making things successful. How many yoga
courses a day Gauramantra can give? How many classes
can be there
in the Vaishnava Academy Életház? How
many hours can you go on sankirtan? How many articles
load every week to your home page? How much care you
put to maintain the temple? How much energy, how much
money you can spend for making beautification of everything?
Everything has a standard. According to time, place
and circumstance. If you have more money, the standard
So, how do you find this out? Ista-gosti. Smaller,
medium, large ista-gostis, but not my private decision.
think, like Madhavi said, you should ask the devotees,
are you satisfied with my performance? That is the
best. Do you have an idea how I can do my things better?
is a natural statement for a humble person. This is
the reality of life. And as soon as we come down from
reality, into some ego sphere, it becomes an ego reality.
Like dictators. They say, in my country everything
is done the way I want. Poor country. The guy has no
he is living in the past, he is only thinking how to
get his stupid face on every coin and in every bill.
And his buildings are big, like monuments of his big
ego. While the whole country is in trouble. And the
children don’t get education. So this is a situation
with dictators. It’s pretty bad. Therefore, it’s
very interesting, daivik varnashram, there is democracy
for the brahmins. There is capitalism for the vaishyas.
There is monarchy for the kshatriyas. And there is
communism for the shudras. So, how does it work? The
is the highest. But only brahmins know how to manage
it. The king is the monarch. He is very powerful. He
has military might. But the brahmins are on top of
him. And they tell him how to do it. The vaishyas,
capitalists. They say, make money, hey, do this, do
that. They manage everything. But the kshatriyas are
Are you dealing honestly? Are you not damaging nature?
Kshatriyas manage the maintenance of overall brahminical
principles. And the shudras, they are just working,
to get something so that they can live. Your opinion
not so important. Because you are not taking responsibility.
You just do your work. That’s very nice. So in
this way the Vedic society is quite a sophisticated
system of adapting the imperfect world to some progressive
Everybody has a chance to go up. To go up is being
promoted. And in this way it is a very fair society.
governments in theory they try to imitate such a thing.
But it doesn’t work. Because they don’t
have brahmins. They are not cultivating brahminic principles.
So either a military man takes the power, or the vaishyas
take the power, or the shudras link up with some military
man and they take the power. But all of them, after
got the power, they start thinking, oh, how to manage
this? How to make it honest and fair? That’s
why the people conclude that democracy is the least
ills. But a Krsna-conscious dictator would be better
than a democracy. And the communist system, where the
members of the Politburo are spiritually minded, they
would definitely be a better government than we see
in the disaster countries of today.
should only be imposed from those who are the well-wishers
of others. If restrictions are
imposed by those who are contaminated in consciousness,
everybody feels very unhappy. But if my well-wisher
tells me, do not smoke and do not drink, then I feel,
OK. Anyhow, enough of that for today. I just say these
things to make you aware that in Krsna Consciousness
we have to deal with many more fields and areas then
we are normally thinking about. And how we manage our
temple, it has to be an example. That others will see,
oh, they’re really putting the Lord on top. They
really have ista-gosti. Not ego-gosti. Where a few
big fat egos get together, and they are just sharing
conveniences, and they don’t want more members
to participate, claiming that they have no experience,
or claiming anything else, in order to stick to the
wrong ways of the past.
Srila Prabhupad said, The duty
of a sannyasi is to enthuse and to correct. But how
can he correct? Only
the people to correct. A sannyasi has no legislative
power, and he does not have a private army, so what
is his power? Enthusiasm for the truth. A local temple,
there is a little bit of legislative power. Because
manages the money, he has some power. That is always
there, somebody must manage. But the secret of a sannyasi
is that he enthuses everybody else. He goes everywhere
And the first thing he enthuses is, the
hearing and chanting of Srimad Bhagavatam. And the
is the active program of ista-gosti. And he participates
in the ista-gosti as one of the servants. This is the
process. You don’t know much ista-gostis. Sometimes
I go to 5-6-7 ista-gostis in one week. I’m going
from one ista-gosti to the next, to the next. And I
love it. Because that’s the forum where we become
humble. That’s the forum where we plan how to
serve. And that’s the forum where you meet the
most interesting people. The greatest jewels of Vaishnavism
in the ista-gostis. Because they all come. How to increase,
how to make it better? And this is the best meeting
sadhus. Sadhus at work.
Because one thing is to meet
a sadhu, Haribol, Haribol, but it is much better to
see a sadhu at work. Because
then you can learn from him. So I hope with these few
words I have given you some food for thought. And our
battle against the big ego will become more successful.
And our chance to get out of this material world will
be more successful. Please don’t forget.
The ego covering of the universe is the biggest and
most difficult one to overcome. It is much easier to
a celibate. Or it is much easier to restrict your eating
to only drinking milk or only eating fruits. To conquer
the ego is the final, last and biggest battle.
of course that battle starts from the fist day when
you come in contact with Krsna Consciousness.
I see devotees who are qualified in the material world,
university graduates, technicians, successful businessmen,
but they sit down in the ista-gosti, and work together
with everybody else on an equal level for the goal
of our Radha-Gopi-Vallabha, then I am very happy. And
know there is a big future.
So keep including as many
people as you can in your ista-gostis. Not only those
who live in the temple.
That is meaningless.
Some people, they don’t live in the temple because
they have no business in the temple. But their desire
to serve Krsna is just as big as those who live in
the temple. And maybe their capacity is even bigger,
those who live in the temple. So make your ista-gostis
real happy celebrations. With nice prasadam and nice
kirtan and ever increasing commitment to try to do
the best we can for the Lord of our Heart. And to make
that everybody is happy who is trying to participate.
Because we know that happiness depends on wanting to
participate in such a noble cause. If you don’t
care for such a noble cause, how do you expect to be
Thank you very much for giving me your valuable
time this morning. Of course, it is not your time.
to Radha-Gopi-Vallabha anyway. And I am very grateful
they allow me to serve you by speaking this morning.
Haribol. Now we have to relax the mind. Called digestion
Vancha kalpa tarubhyas ca krpa sindhubhya eva ca,
patitanam pavanebhyo vaisnavebhyo namo namah